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The problem with your idea is that you are going to find yourself in a catch 22. No one wants to advertise or use an app like this unless "everyone" is already using it. You are going to have an extremely hard time getting it off the ground because no one wants to be the first person onboard for an app like this... or even the 1000th.
I would say coding the app is the smallest part of your project. Getting the database built up is the hard part. you are going to need millions of businesses in the database and who is going to enter in all that info?
Yeah, I'm going to agree. Design the database & API first (your foundation/backbone). See where that gets you and then get the app built.
I had a similar idea a few years ago, hoping that businesses would enter in the info/data themselves. It's like free advertising but the logistics is overwhelming.
It's been done but on a small scale. There's a site in the UK that keeps track of pet stores and their inventories. The data is entered by the businesses themselves, via an excel spreadsheet?maybe.
Yes, I agree branding/marketing to businesses to use the app is a challenge but that's where my role as biz idea development partner comes in for 20% of the ongoing revenue. The coder will not be paid but will always get 80% of the revenue for programming, debugging and continuous technical support. This is a better arrangement as it is an ongoing team effort, not a one time pay & forget deal.
But before presenting to VCs and my mass media companies contacts, I need a suitable coder and submit/demo a first working version of the app.
all i can say is good luck. this is one of those ideas that sounds great and works great on paper, but in the real world u'll have a hard time even making $1 off it. :/
all i can say is good luck. this is one of those ideas that sounds great and works great on paper, but in the real world u'll have a hard time even making $1 off it. :/
The next person that compares their app to instagram I will personally mail dog poop to lol. In all seriousness people don't understand that half of the gold mine that people see the app store is, is right place right time. I had a client come in yesterday with an idea for a game and he was like it will be just like Angry Birds. I just shook my head.
That coming from a poop-brained who solicits others for ideas. www.idea2appstore.com
Your idea sounds like something I used MS Streets and Trips for years ago. It would list whatever businesses you wanted that was nearby. It's actually very useful.
Not concidering the points/money part, I would guess this would be best intergrated into an overall GPS package. I'd actually be concerned that the GPS makers would do something like this (less the points/money part) They already have the database built.
Creating a database of this detail would be a huge job. If you convince business to do the data entry, you then have an issue that if 1/4 of them go along with it, it's still not going to be very effective. You'd want a near full list in order to gain enough interest.
Have you checked into buying or leasing the databases that other GPS companies use?
the other thing about instagram is that the original investors dropped over $3million to start the company. So you aren't talking about some guy developing an app in his bedroom on nights and weekends.
huh? how are you going to categorize (make sense of) your data? Even google that's a search engine has a massive database. I think you don't understand your own app.
You are mistaken, I am not trying to create another google search engine with a massive database. All that is needed is a unique user id no. and its points record. Isn't that what most in-app purchase games and find-friends locator apps have? After being informed of the app through the channels I mentioned above, the user does not need to register with a whole bunch of information like most websites. If the 12345th user is a business selling headphones, its id could be B2312345, if the 12346th user is not a business, then it is 12346.
I'm not saying your app is like google. You need to keep track of business name, service, location, etc... How are users to find them? Magic? Or better yet google which is an existing web app that works very well.
I'm not saying your app is like google. You need to keep track of business name, service, location, etc... How are users to find them? Magic? Or better yet google which is an existing web app that works very well.
Why do I bother to keep track of all that? That's what the interactive chat box is for... The user can question the business responding all the details, and firstly or most importantly whether they have the item or service right now, if not, why does the user even bother with any more details.
Why do I bother to keep track of all that? That's what the interactive chat box is for... The user can question the business responding all the details, and firstly or most importantly whether they have the item or service right now, if not, why does the user even bother with any more details.
I think he is asking how will your app know about the businesses and keep up with the IDs? It would have to have some type of database would it not?
I think he is asking how will your app know about the businesses and keep up with the IDs? It would have to have some type of database would it not?
My app does not want to know details about the businesses. The basic database needed is just like those in games apps .i.e userid & points/gold coins. I believe apple have something to facilitate that for 30% of in-app prepaid transaction, right? This app is not about collecting database or information like social apps.
It Is simply to facilitate a chat box between a potential client & it's, say 2miles surrounding, anyone that may have that specific item/service right now so that user does not need to do google research and then call/go ten different locations 2 miles point to point only to discover nobody actually have in-stock that item. (user just push notify broadcast "does anyone have headphones model 350, offer bridging teeth method dentist service,etc NOW?". If not, user would not even bother to click to chat for name, location, etc,details.)
The main issue is the server cost and latency in different countries locations to facilitate thousands of ongoing chats.
I know that. The basic database needed is just like those in games apps .i.e userid & points/gold coins. I believe apple have something to facilitate that for 30% of in-app prepaid transaction, right? This app is not about collecting database or information like social apps.
It Is simply to facilitate a chat box between a potential client & it's, say 2miles surrounding, businesses that may have that specific item/service right now so that user does not need to do google research and then call/go ten different locations 2 miles point to point only to discover nobody actually has in-stock that item. (user just push notify "do you have headphones model 350, offer bridging teeth method dentist service,etc". If not, user would not even bother to click to chat for name, location, etc,details.) The main issue is not database but the server cost and latency in different countries locations to facilitate thousands of ongoing chats.
I think you're missing what people are saying--how do you connect these users with the surrounding businesses? When I user fires up your app, and says, for example, "I need headphones"...how are YOU connecting them to a business? Where is the information about that business located? Are you using google? How does the business respond? Web? Via iOS? Does this only work with businesses that have signed up for your app?
The data that includes the available businesses must be stored somewhere.
I think you're missing what people are saying--how do you connect these users with the surrounding businesses? When I user fires up your app, and says, for example, "I need headphones"...how are YOU connecting them to a business? Where is the information about that business located? Are you using google? How does the business respond? Web? Via iOS? Does this only work with businesses that have signed up for your app? The data that includes the available businesses must be stored somewhere.
How do find-friends locator apps work? Consider a friend a business.
My app does not want to know details about the businesses. The basic database needed is just like those in games apps .i.e userid & points/gold coins. I believe apple have something to facilitate that for 30% of in-app prepaid transaction, right? This app is not about collecting database or information like social apps.
It Is simply to facilitate a chat box between a potential client & it's, say 2miles surrounding, anyone that may have that specific item/service right now so that user does not need to do google research and then call/go ten different locations 2 miles point to point only to discover nobody actually have in-stock that item. (user just push notify broadcast "does anyone have headphones model 350, offer bridging teeth method dentist service,etc NOW?". If not, user would not even bother to click to chat for name, location, etc,details.)
The main issue is the server cost and latency in different countries locations to facilitate thousands of ongoing chats.
If you are just hoping that business download your app and sign up, then you maybe surprised that you won't have that many businesses. If you don't have businesses then how will your app be useful to any customers that download your app?
That is why people have been saying you will need to build up a huge database of businesses so that your app actually has connections for people to use. Just hoping that businesses sign up for your app doesn't seem like a good strategy.
lol coolcat, you don't clearly understand how these apps work.
If i want to buy a set of tires and I pull up your app. your app can only display a blank screen, unless it has access to some database that has all the businesses in the city that have tires. right?
how do you think your app is going to know what businesses have tires? also how is your app going to know which businesses are nearby my current location? unless you have those businesses entered into some database along with their address or gps location.
Your app needs to have access to that info before it can give the same info to users.
and having a chat box? who is on the other end of the chat?
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The problem with your idea is that you are going to find yourself in a catch 22. No one wants to advertise or use an app like this unless "everyone" is already using it. You are going to have an extremely hard time getting it off the ground because no one wants to be the first person onboard for an app like this... or even the 1000th.
I would say coding the app is the smallest part of your project. Getting the database built up is the hard part. you are going to need millions of businesses in the database and who is going to enter in all that info?
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0 • Off Topic Insightful Disagree Dislike Like AwesomeI had a similar idea a few years ago, hoping that businesses would enter in the info/data themselves. It's like free advertising but the logistics is overwhelming.
It's been done but on a small scale. There's a site in the UK that keeps track of pet stores and their inventories. The data is entered by the businesses themselves, via an excel spreadsheet?maybe.
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0 • Off Topic Insightful Disagree Dislike Like AwesomeBut before presenting to VCs and my mass media companies contacts, I need a suitable coder and submit/demo a first working version of the app.
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0 • Off Topic Insightful Disagree Dislike Like AwesomeIn all seriousness people don't understand that half of the gold mine that people see the app store is, is right place right time.
I had a client come in yesterday with an idea for a game and he was like it will be just like Angry Birds. I just shook my head.
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0 • Off Topic Insightful Disagree Dislike Like AwesomeNot concidering the points/money part, I would guess this would be best intergrated into an overall GPS package. I'd actually be concerned that the GPS makers would do something like this (less the points/money part) They already have the database built.
Creating a database of this detail would be a huge job. If you convince business to do the data entry, you then have an issue that if 1/4 of them go along with it, it's still not going to be very effective. You'd want a near full list in order to gain enough interest.
Have you checked into buying or leasing the databases that other GPS companies use?
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0 • Off Topic Insightful Disagree Dislike Like AwesomeEven google that's a search engine has a massive database.
I think you don't understand your own app.
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0 • Off Topic Insightful Disagree Dislike Like AwesomeAfter being informed of the app through the channels I mentioned above, the user does not need to register with a whole bunch of information like most websites. If the 12345th user is a business selling headphones, its id could be B2312345, if the 12346th user is not a business, then it is 12346.
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0 • Off Topic Insightful Disagree Dislike Like AwesomeYou need to keep track of business name, service, location, etc... How are users to find them? Magic? Or better yet google which is an existing web app that works very well.
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0 • Off Topic Insightful Disagree Dislike Like AwesomeThis app is not about collecting database or information like social apps.
It Is simply to facilitate a chat box between a potential client & it's, say 2miles surrounding, anyone that may have that specific item/service right now so that user does not need to do google research and then call/go ten different locations 2 miles point to point only to discover nobody actually have in-stock that item.
(user just push notify broadcast "does anyone have headphones model 350, offer bridging teeth method dentist service,etc NOW?". If not, user would not even bother to click to chat for name, location, etc,details.)
The main issue is the server cost and latency in different countries locations to facilitate thousands of ongoing chats.
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0 • Off Topic Insightful Disagree Dislike Like AwesomeThe data that includes the available businesses must be stored somewhere.
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0 • Off Topic Insightful Disagree Dislike Like AwesomeHave you actually thought this through all the way?
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0 • Off Topic Insightful Disagree Dislike Like AwesomeThat is why people have been saying you will need to build up a huge database of businesses so that your app actually has connections for people to use. Just hoping that businesses sign up for your app doesn't seem like a good strategy.
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0 • Off Topic Insightful Disagree Dislike Like AwesomeIf i want to buy a set of tires and I pull up your app. your app can only display a blank screen, unless it has access to some database that has all the businesses in the city that have tires. right?
how do you think your app is going to know what businesses have tires? also how is your app going to know which businesses are nearby my current location? unless you have those businesses entered into some database along with their address or gps location.
Your app needs to have access to that info before it can give the same info to users.
and having a chat box? who is on the other end of the chat?
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