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A lot of downloads from China

sparksosparkso Posts: 542Registered Users @ @ @
Not sure about you guys, but recently i am seeing a lot of downloads from China for all my apps.
They make up more than 50% of my downloads now. Very weird, and the download numbers are pretty consitent across these apps. 128 downloads per app around.

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  • dobrydobry Posts: 296Registered Users @ @
    Same for me since 18th of August. Their downloads make about 70% of all my apps. However free apps, they almost don't buy upgrades. I only earn about $1 per 1000 downloads from China.
  • tmongytmongy Posts: 93New Users @
    Same here, I'm not sure what's going on. But I noticed they download but don't open the app, so I don't get an increase in sessions at all.

    I suspect it is some sort of fraudulent activity to manipulate rankings for other apps, they just download some other random apps to make it seem like they are legit users.
  • astersdoastersdo USAPosts: 640New Users @ @ @
    Might it be a way to manipulate Apple's search algorithm? If you search for app A but install app B then I think app B jumps app A for the search term even if app A is a better match for the search term.
  • RodoxydRodoxyd FrancePosts: 14New Users *
    Same here. Got 30 to 90 downloads from China per day since 18th of August. Looking analytics, it was 0~1/day before 29th of may, 1~8/day between 29th the may and 18th of August. And apps are not opened too. Bots for sure, but for what purpose ?
  • anappdev2anappdev2 Posts: 101New Users @ @
    Yeah and it is messing up all the numbers. These are most probably bots as did not see any activities from these downloads.
  • jhonkjjhonkj Posts: 150New Users @ @
    yes same thing here, always free apps, (now that I have free apps) they don't even look at the app page, had 100 views in app store and not from china I imagine, 800 downloads... and zero openings of the app, they are trying to drown some other app, or some how boost something else, I can not figure out what it is they are trying to accomplish. It would only effect a china app store ranking, one would think. not sure if I should just turn everything off for china.. doesn't seem like any one actually exists over there that actually uses an app store for intended purposes, anything on the internet must be pirated or full of spyware before the techno savvy in china are happy.

    most likely they are trying to figure out how to break the real app store, and doing every experiment under the sun on 100's of apps to get good statistics, although only for free apps... what could they be doing?
  • kbmmankbmman Posts: 8New Users Noob
    We are seeing exactly the same thing. Downloads went from 10-20 per day in China to around 70 from 18th of August. This happened for all our free apps. And none of them were opened.
  • sparksosparkso Posts: 542Registered Users @ @ @
    kbmman wrote: »
    We are seeing exactly the same thing. Downloads went from 10-20 per day in China to around 70 from 18th of August. This happened for all our free apps. And none of them were opened.

    what analytics are you guys using to check app opens? If it's firebase it won't work, so are many other analytic services.
  • kbmmankbmman Posts: 8New Users Noob
    sparkso wrote: »
    what analytics are you guys using to check app opens? If it's firebase it won't work, so are many other analytic services.
    App Analytics in iTunes Connect. Only sessions from opt-in users are registered (around 20%), but the pattern is clearly very different between China and other countries.

  • astersdoastersdo USAPosts: 640New Users @ @ @
    You should all contact Apple. They will of course tell you everything is okay, but that isn't to say that that is what they really think, and maybe they will do something about it.
  • rijeka2008rijeka2008 Posts: 118Registered Users @ @
    edited September 21
    my free app have sudden boom to 57k in one day from china but I dont see any movement on admob, it shows only 10 views, maybe appstore bug?
    Post edited by rijeka2008 on
  • bellissimobellissimo Posts: 203Registered Users @ @
    I have noticed this in the last few weeks too. Pretty steady 50ish downloads from China per day, and no increase in total sessions. Never had a single download in China till this started happening.
  • Arty TalesArty Tales Posts: 420Registered Users @ @
    It has been happening to me for months. Apple has been zero help in suggesting what the cause might be.
  • dev666999dev666999 Posts: 3,613New Users @ @ @ @ @
    Arty Tales wrote: »
    It has been happening to me for months. Apple has been zero help in suggesting what the cause might be.

    If the idiots at Apple can't figure this out, then use that as a green light to game the app store.

    {sarcasm}
  • sparksosparkso Posts: 542Registered Users @ @ @
    Hey seems my China downloads dropped big time yesterday. Hope they fixed it.
  • iekeiiekei Posts: 594Registered Users @ @ @
    If you thought the free downloads from China were distracting, you could have easily removed your free apps from the China store.
  • tmongytmongy Posts: 93New Users @
    iekei wrote: »
    If you thought the free downloads from China were distracting, you could have easily removed your free apps from the China store.

    The discussion here is aiming to understand the phenomenon of these Chinese downloads that don't correspond to any sessions. Your suggestion is a little condescending IMHO, especially when you're directing it towards experienced developers who have been on the store for years.
  • iekeiiekei Posts: 594Registered Users @ @ @
    Welcome, new user.
  • dobrydobry Posts: 296Registered Users @ @
    sparkso wrote: »
    Hey seems my China downloads dropped big time yesterday. Hope they fixed it.
    Yes, same for me. Downloads from China of past 2 days are normal (from about 300 to 20) again.
    Maybe we will soon see same as earlier: From time to time suddenly several thousands downloads from China and usually almost nothing.
  • iekeiiekei Posts: 594Registered Users @ @ @
    From June it was crazy for me. Thousands out of nowhere. The problem I had was that there were also some legitimate ones in there at that time.
  • sparksosparkso Posts: 542Registered Users @ @ @
    most interesting thing is that these downloads actually helped my search rankings in China..
  • RodoxydRodoxyd FrancePosts: 14New Users *
    back to normal too
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