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App rankings still changing, even during shutdown.

ethanwaethanwa Posts: 684Registered Users @ @ @
Look at Sports #1. It just changed and we've been shutdown for over a day now. Are the rankings changing even during the shutdown this year?

This could be interesting...
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  • masc2279masc2279 Posts: 346Registered Users @ @
    edited December 2011
    ethanwa wrote: »
    Look at Sports #1. It just changed and we've been shutdown for over a day now. Are the rankings changing even during the shutdown this year?

    This could be interesting...

    Yes the rankings are live they must have fixed that issue. You can use MajicRank and see the rank changes.
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  • FDAppsFDApps Posts: 191Registered Users @ @
    edited December 2011
    masc2279 wrote: »
    Yes the rankings are live they must have fixed that issue. You can use MajicRank and see the rank changes.

    Not changing now.
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  • masc2279masc2279 Posts: 346Registered Users @ @
    edited December 2011
    FDApps wrote: »
    Not changing now.

    Yes it is just checked again.
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  • bignogginsbignoggins Posts: 2,198Registered Users @ @ @ @
    edited December 2011
    Of course they change.

    Why shouldn't they?

    It has nothing to do with the lockdown.

    The lockdown meant to be for locking developers out from iTunes Connect, not users downloading apps.
    Ranks are determined on downloads, not on iTunes Connect being accessible or not.

    Think logical!
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    rankings were locked down last year
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  • dredre Posts: 1,312Registered Users @ @ @ @
    edited December 2011
    looks like the rankings are locked.
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  • ethanwaethanwa Posts: 684Registered Users @ @ @
    edited December 2011
    Of course they change.

    Why shouldn't they?

    It has nothing to do with the lockdown.

    The lockdown meant to be for locking developers out from iTunes Connect, not users downloading apps.
    Ranks are determined on downloads, not on iTunes Connect being accessible or not.

    Think logical!
    Use Applyzer to see your apps' hourly ranking.

    Rankings were locked in 2008, 2009, and 2010. Them not being locked in 2011 is completely new.
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  • FDAppsFDApps Posts: 191Registered Users @ @
    edited December 2011
    Of course they change.

    Why shouldn't they?

    It has nothing to do with the lockdown.

    The lockdown meant to be for locking developers out from iTunes Connect, not users downloading apps.
    Ranks are determined on downloads, not on iTunes Connect being accessible or not.

    Think logical!
    Use Applyzer to see your apps' hourly ranking.

    funny, guess you're new...
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  • ziocletoziocleto Posts: 1,107Registered Users @ @ @ @
    edited December 2011
    ethanwa wrote: »
    Rankings were locked in 2008, 2009, and 2010. Them not being locked in 2011 is completely new.

    I really do not recall rankings being locked down in the past, must have been that I didn't care at all? :)
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  • chemistrychemistry Posts: 531Registered Users @ @ @
    edited December 2011
    well rankings have definitely stalled now.
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  • masc2279masc2279 Posts: 346Registered Users @ @
    edited December 2011
    chemistry wrote: »
    well rankings have definitely stalled now.

    Nope still moving and has not stopped moving anytime I have checked throughout the shutdown.
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  • bignogginsbignoggins Posts: 2,198Registered Users @ @ @ @
    edited December 2011
    masc2279 wrote: »
    Nope still moving and has not stopped moving anytime I have checked throughout the shutdown.

    Rankings have been locked for me since yesterday
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  • masc2279masc2279 Posts: 346Registered Users @ @
    edited December 2011
    bignoggins wrote: »
    Rankings have been locked for me since yesterday

    Strange maybe its certain sections. I am in the US and my apps are in Reference and Education and they are moving in all markets just checked again and they have moved in the last 15 min so maybe its stalled on other sections.
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  • masc2279masc2279 Posts: 346Registered Users @ @
    edited December 2011
    Unbelievable that some people don't even believe, what they see with their own eyes.

    Read my lips: there is no ranking lockdown and there never was one!

    My apps move up and down in EVERY COUNTRY every hour every day in applyzer.

    This is the chart from Appfigures for Alpine Crawler World.

    mwdzv3nw.jpg

    I also see the same using MajicRank for all my apps but who knows there may be more variables than we know. But i agree there has been no freeze this year.
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  • mochibitsmochibits Posts: 361New Users @ @
    edited December 2011
    I've noticed every once in a while ranks and review count get stalled, then takes a few days to correct. I was thinking this was from an overload in the system.

    That's what I'm seeing now.
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  • dredre Posts: 1,312Registered Users @ @ @ @
    edited December 2011
    The game category was locked on 25th.. now it seems to move a bit.
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  • nerBrothersnerBrothers Posts: 27Registered Users
    edited December 2011
    I see also changes in appfigures and iTunes but no change on the app store on the device. There are also no new Reviews since 24th.

    Does someone know when its over?
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  • LiquidFireLiquidFire Posts: 118Registered Users @ @
    edited December 2011
    A quick look at Appshopper shows at least the top 200 apps are frozen now. No movement in the last few hours. Going into different categories shows a little movement in apps that aren't in the top 200 overall.
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  • iNetiNet Posts: 145Registered Users
    edited December 2011
    LiquidFire wrote: »
    A quick look at Appshopper shows at least the top 200 apps are frozen now. No movement in the last few hours. Going into different categories shows a little movement in apps that aren't in the top 200 overall.

    Reviews are closed and have been since Christmas eve, here in the UK anyways.

    There is certainly no ranking freeze in the lifestyle category on either the iPhone or iPad store.
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  • bignogginsbignoggins Posts: 2,198Registered Users @ @ @ @
    edited December 2011
    Top 25 in sports has been locked for a few days
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  • nerBrothersnerBrothers Posts: 27Registered Users
    edited December 2011
    i see that the appstore on the iPhone is frozen, but not the iTunes ranks. Its not the same. So appannie see 'wrong' datas ;)

    For example. My app "super jump world" is in denmark since 23rd rank one on the iPhone but not in iTunes. Check it out ....

    I think the rank on the device is much more important than the iTunes ranks.
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  • chemistrychemistry Posts: 531Registered Users @ @ @
    edited December 2011
    Well in both iTunes and iPhone app store, the Top paid rankings had been like this [see attached] since Christmas Eve. I mean how often would you see Top 200 rankings being the exactly the same for a few days. Only the front-end matters.

    Last Christmas, things were even worse I remember, rankings were reflecting the ones back in late September 2010.
    Screen Shot 2011-12-27 at ??10.19.12.jpg
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  • kmkkmk Posts: 438Registered Users @ @
    edited December 2011
    I see too see lots of fluctuation in rank on app annie but on my iOS devices rank has not changed in at least a couple days.
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  • bignogginsbignoggins Posts: 2,198Registered Users @ @ @ @
    edited December 2011
    Haha promo does being a grump make you feel better now that no one is buying your apps anymore?

    Look, who cares about appannie and applyzer? We know they use the iTunes RSS feeds, which are probably not locked down, but no one gives a hoot about the RSS feeds anyway, it's the on device rankings that matter for visibility.

    And the fact is that rankings have been locked on the device (where it matters) since Christmas Eve, just like it has been every year.
    And what sense would it make to lock ranking only in certain countries in certain categories?

    Next time you will say, YOUR rankings were locked by an evil conspiracy of your competitors....

    Appannie shows that there were daily changes in Fantasy Monster. If you would use Applyzer, I am sure you would see your changes hourly too.

    But you are right. Probably there is a guy at Apple, who is paid for sitting there during holidays in a chamber with a ******* big switch whit the text "random locker" and he switches it bored on and off in every few hours. That must be it.

    Don't you recognize, how stupid you sound?
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  • iNetiNet Posts: 145Registered Users
    edited December 2011
    +1 bignoggins

    Was that Xmas eve US time? Just out of interest, and did you notice in previous years if this helped hold chart position in the following weeks?
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  • MeozMeoz Posts: 213Registered Users
    edited December 2011
    @Promo LOL!

    So does this mean that you are out of luck if you had a low ranking just before the were locked up ?
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